2018 Jan 17 ~ 24

“>May 2016
>AT&T puts data caps on everything for the first time
>sends postcards to everyone
>”AT&T Now Offering Unlimited Data Plans!”

>January 2018
>Comcast throttles everything for the first time
>sends postcards to everyone
>”Comcast Now Offering Internet That’s Faster Than Ever!”

If you think of any public statement from anyone as another specialized version of “just the tip”, you won’t be far from discerning their true intentions.”

>what should the government own
>”banks, prisons”
>why banks
>”because they run everything”
>governments should own things which “run everything”
>”yes”
>like water
>”no, it depends”
>so water runs less of everything than money?
>”you don’t understand, it’s complicated”

I can see why Socrates was put to death.
He was too good at whacking people who don’t know what they’re dealing with.”

“also i think the reason he is calling it broken is because
he says because theres no team that wouldnt benefit from him being on it theres no reason to ever not use him
its like why pot of greed is broken
theres no reason not to use the card so its like its never there anyway because everyone is using it”

“no, theres a really specific reason why pot of greed is broken
it’s because it’s free card advantage
you can say it’s because “everyone uses it” but that’s only a secondary indicator
it’s like using statistics to find out what works and what doesn’t
it’s not untrue
you’ll figure out what’s really good using statistics
but you won’t know why
and i want to know why”

“financial writer suggested there was no way Ponzi could legally deliver such high returns in a short period of time, Ponzi sued for libel and won $500,000 in damages. As libel law at the time placed the burden of proof on the writer and the paper, this effectively neutralized any serious probes into his dealings for some time.

Nonetheless, there were still signs of his eventual ruin. Joseph Daniels, a Boston furniture dealer who had given Ponzi furniture which he could not afford to pay for, sued Ponzi to cash in on the gold rush. The lawsuit was unsuccessful, but it did start people asking how Ponzi could have gone from being penniless to being a millionaire in so short a time. There was a run on the Securities Exchange Company, as some investors decided to pull out. Ponzi paid them and the run stopped.

On July 24, 1920, the Boston Post printed a favorable article on Ponzi and his scheme that brought in investors faster than ever. At that time, Ponzi was making $250,000 a day. Ponzi’s good fortune was increased by the fact that just below this favorable article, which seemed to imply that Ponzi was indeed returning 50% return on investment after only 45 days, was a bank advertisement that stated that the bank was paying 5% returns annually. The next business day after this article was published, Ponzi arrived at his office to find thousands of Bostonians waiting to give him their money.

Despite this reprieve, Post acting publisher Richard Grozier (also the son of the editor and owner of the Post) and city editor Eddie Dunn were suspicious and assigned investigative reporters to check Ponzi out. He was also under investigation by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and, on the day the Post printed its article, Ponzi met with state officials. He managed to divert the officials from checking his books by offering to stop taking money during the investigation, a fortunate choice, as proper records were not being kept. Ponzi’s offer temporarily calmed the suspicions of the state officials.””

“There’s a reason every modern translation of Nietzsche has a preface where the author contorts himself to “resurrect Nietzsche from misreadings by far right wing extremists”, and it’s precisely because the implications of his writings are precisely what right wingers say it is.”

“For CCP, bots serve another purpose than lining the pockets of corrupted devs which contribute to their existence defying multiple reports: they keep the concurrent user count up. A player who plays an hour every day increases the concurrent user count by 1/24. A 24/7 botter running 64 bots increase it by 64. The community measures EVE health by this number.

“It is not a pay gap between men and women, as revealed by the multivariate analysis. It is the pay gap between, to oversimplify, workaholics and non-workaholics. If the pay gap were eliminated, women would be more unhappy. They would have to, again to oversimplify, work longer than they wanted to. They would have to be forced into jobs which they don’t like and aren’t suited to. One consequence of men and women being not the same is that men and women want different things. Something every child knows. On average, wanting different things will cause different average outcomes. Such as a wage gap.

Because men and women are different, they also have different capacities. That’s the Damore memo. Even if they both wanted to be CEOs at the same rate, then fewer women would have the capacity to do so. Not zero, but fewer. It’s an experiment? Nothing to compare it to? Nonsense. Women have been able to start companies for decades. There are no de facto legal barriers to keeping them staffed by women either, like there are for men.

[…] “You’re saying we should organize our societies like lobsters do.” (Paraphrase.)
Yes, that is exactly what many people will hear. Description is transmuted into prescription. “Is” directly becomes “therefore, ought”.”

“It is no coincidence that the visual arts grew exponentially after the Renaissance, when Europeans started to draw and sculpt naked women. Islamic or Oriental art is ok, but they couldn’t do soft porn and so it fell very far behind Europe.

There’s a lesson here.”

“Can sex doll cook your meals?
Can sex doll have your kids?
Can sex doll wash your clothes?
Can sex doll make your home?”

“Can you?”

“When immigration is done by single individuals, it is immigration. When done by groups, it is invasion.”

“My ‘obsession’ with JBP, as @HighlyNeurotic put it, is to show two things:
1. He stands head and shoulders above most any other public figure.
2. This is barely a patch on how far above he needs to be.
Not to mention,
3. It is not some coincidence or spot of bad luck that public figures are capped so far below where they need to be.”

“It’s easy to ruin a creative activity: do it as a subordinate, and you’ll often grow to hate it. “

“Programmers, by and large, don’t mind operational subordination. In fact, we have an affinity for it. We like to solve complex problems with simple rules that make sense. We operationally subordinate, every day, to the syntactical demands of a compiler that simply won’t do anything with code it cannot parse. When rules are sane, and the benefit in their existence is obvious, we eagerly follow them. It’s the personal subordination that burns us out. We’re smart enough to spot a system that demands personal loyalty from us, while refusing to reciprocate, and it disgusts us. We recognize that our rules-based, overly rational way of thinking is under attack; someone is trying to hack us and take advantage.”

“There are a lot of workplace trends that are making the programming career extremely unattractive, especially to the sorts of creative, intelligent people that it’s going to need in order to fill the next generation.

Open-plan offices are the most egregious example. They aren’t productive. It’s hard to concentrate in them. They’re anti-intellectual, insofar as people become afraid to be caught reading books (or just thinking) on the job. When you force people to play a side game of appearing productive, in addition to their job duties, they become less productive. Open-plan offices aren’t even about productivity in the first place. It’s about corporate image. VC-backed startups that needed to manage up into investors used these plans to make their workspaces look busy. (To put it bluntly, an open-plan programmer is more valued as office furniture than for the code she writes.) For a variety of cultural reasons, that made the open-plan outfit seem “cool” and “youthy” and now it’s infesting the corporate world in general.

It’s well known that creative people lose their creativity if asked to explain themselves while they are working. It’s the same with software. Programmers often have to work in an environment of one-sided transparency. These Agile systems, so often misapplied, demand that they provide humiliating visibility into their time and work, despite a lack of reciprocity. Instead of working on actual, long-term projects that a person could get excited about, they’re relegated to working on atomized, feature-level “user stories” and often disallowed to work on improvements that can’t be related to short-term, immediate business needs (often delivered from on-high). This misguided but common variant of Agile eliminates the concept of ownership and treats programmers as interchangeable, commoditized components.”

“As we moved from the 19th century into the 20th, we got very good at making food. It’s hard to imagine this being a bad thing; yet, it led to a Great Depression in North America and long-running, total wars (of a kind that prior agricultural capabilities and supply chains couldn’t support) in Europe. Ill-managed prosperity is more dangerous than true scarcity, it seems. Scarcity’s bad, but at least it slows things down.

In North America, food prices started dropping in the 1920s. Farms couldn’t survive. Our later corrections persist and, in some ways, are pernicious; due to our perennial corn surplus, we spike soft drinks with high-fructose Franken-sugars. However, that came after the Depression. In the last Gilded Age, consensus was that it was best to let these farmers fail. So, rural small towns that served the farmers died along with them. Heavy industry got hit around 1925-27, and the stock market grew more volatile in turn. Then it crashed, notably, in October 1929, but that didn’t “cause” the Depression; we’ve had worse stock market crashes since then (e.g., 1987) to minimal effect. Rather, the Great Depression actually started in the early 1920s; it just wasn’t until about 1930 that it started hitting rich people in the cities. We learned that poverty wasn’t some “moral medicine” to shock people back into adhering to the so-called protestant work ethic; rather, it was a cancer that, left to its own devices, would keep spreading until it destroyed a society.

What killed the American economy in the 1930s? Conservative mismanagement of agricultural prosperity.

What’s killing the American middle class in 2018? Conservative mismanagement of technological prosperity.

What happened to farmers in the 1920s is happening to… all human labor. Let that sink in. The vast majority of Americans produce things of less usefulness than what farmers produce. If farmers weren’t safe in the ’20s, public relations managers and computer programmers aren’t safe today. We’ll die without food; we’ll be fine without TPS reports.”

“Americans think it is a universal human instinct to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It’s not. It seems natural to us because we live in a Bible-based Judeo-Christian culture.

We think the Protestant work ethic is universal. It’s not. My town was full of young men doing nothing. They were waiting for a government job. There was no private enterprise. Private business was not illegal, just impossible, given the nightmare of a third-world bureaucratic kleptocracy. It is also incompatible with Senegalese insistence on taking care of relatives.

All the little stores in Senegal were owned by Mauritanians. If a Senegalese wanted to run a little store, he’d go to another country. The reason? Your friends and relatives would ask you for stuff for free, and you would have to say yes. End of your business. You are not allowed to be a selfish individual and say no to relatives. The result: Everyone has nothing.

[…] We are lectured by Democrats that we must privilege third-world immigration by the hundred million with chain migration. They tell us we must end America as a white, Western, Judeo-Christian, capitalist nation – to prove we are not racist. I don’t need to prove a thing. Leftists want open borders because they resent whites, resent Western achievements, and hate America. They want to destroy America as we know it.

As President Trump asked, why would we do that?

We have the right to choose what kind of country to live in. I was happy to donate a year of my life as a young woman to help the poor Senegalese. I am not willing to donate my country.

“I once worked at a company where a product manager said that the difference between a senior engineer and a junior engineer was the ability to provide accurate estimates. Um, no. That’s insulting, actually. I hate estimates, because they generate politics and don’t actually make the work get done faster or better (in fact, it’s usually the opposite).

The worst thing about estimates is that they push a company in the direction of doing work that’s estimable. This causes programmers to favor the low-yield, easy stuff that the business doesn’t actually need (even if bumbling middle managers think otherwise) but that is “safe”. Anything that’s actually worth doing has a non-zero chance of failure and too many unknown unknowns for estimates to be useful.”

“lol/lmao at “you’ve been using facebook in an unusual way”, don’t beat around the bush just tell me I’m a racist asshole”

“Why is RuneScape better than almost every open world game out now
>tons of cities and towns
>unique music for every location
>lore is simple and not intrusive, you don’t really need to follow it if you want to enjoy the game
>every skill is related to another in some way
>empty areas usually have one or two purposes like needing to visit for a quest/sidequest or returning there for a clue scroll
>F2P world is essentially the tutorial but still abundant in content, members have access to 90% of the world as early as Level 3
>minigames have a purpose (except trouble brewing)
>fantastic quests”

“shame about the grand exchange ruining everything good about this game. the only thing keeping me from going back. Fuck the GE”

“It actually created a sense of a temporal world unlike most modern MMOs where all interactions happen through auction houses, random matchmaking and etc

I made like six “business partner” friends in RS just keeping contacts to set up a woodcutting -> fletching -> alchemy stream to get my fletching to 100 and make some gold on the side”

>”business partner” friends in RS just keeping contacts to set up a woodcutting -> fletching -> alchemy stream
Yup same here. Managing and acquiring resources like this was half the fun imo. The game is way better if you just focus on a handful of skills and then trade with established contacts for other material”

“Really? I liked the GE. It was way better than sitting in Varrock spamming selling lobbies 555 to buy. The thing that really sucked was the trade restriction”

“It removed the entire community aspect of the economy. It streamlined it and made it easier, but it almost trivilized things where even quest items you could just go to the GE and buy whatever you want. It wasn’t the same as setting up shop outside of a bank and selling/buying/looking for what you need. It made items feel like they had genuine worth when you looked for it forever and finally found someone selling it. The GE just removed all that, and Ithink a good amount of magic went out the door with it.”

“I played a lot before the 07 downfalls, I’ll have to say a bunch of ingame dialogue was benched with the clan chat bullshit as well as the GE

I mean maybe you can strike up conversations while skilling but before it was like a interaction chatroom

If you stayed in an area long enough you could really get a sense of someone and just add them and create real relationships”

“Grand exchange was the biggest mistake”

“Why? It was fucking annoying spamming for hours and messaging random people on zybez to buy anything uncommon.”

“GE turned RS into a singleplayer game. You shouldn’t be able to progress that much without ever interacting with another player in what is supposed to be an MMO.”

“This way there was an actual interaction and sometimes you could get good deals or bad deals, the Ge has allowed for a breeding ground of extremely anti social people to be born who only do Slayer”

“>started playing RS back around 2007
>get into OSRS, get farther than I ever did back when I was a kid
>99 mining, fat cash stack, sgs, full bandos, the works
>I accomplished all the dreams I had as a kid
>start to think about what I want to do next
>can’t think of anything, no other gear I really want
>grinding a skill is just investing money to make more later to then reinvest into a new skill
>start to question why I’m on this treadmill
>become disillusioned with the game, realize that there’s no real mystery to the game anymore
>no kids or people that play the game casually, everyone just wants to minmax and grind as fast as possible
>everyone knows the most efficient method to power leveling, no experimentation and learning first hand of how things work
>all the systems and mechanics of rs are known inside and out at this point, everything just has to get straight to the point.
Hell staking last time I saw was no armor, dragon dagger specials only, whoever can manipulate ticks the best wins. The community took all the game elements out of pvp that they could.
>no real socializing outside of bankstanding, if that, everyone searching for their own private spot to grind in so that they don’t lose efficiency.
>that sense of wonder surrounding the world of runescape I had as a kid is dead
>no more get rich quick plans that I devised myself but never followed all the way through on because I was a spastic 12 year old, all the best methods are on the wiki.
>no more being in constant poverty but always having a goal to chase

I’m not sure if it was always like this and I just got older or if it was the community that changed.

In a way I’m happy that I completed some of the goals I had when I was a kid, but it feels really bittersweet now.”

“Technically correct is for fags.
Technically wrong is for dummies.”

“There’s this aspect of economic theory called “the theory of the firm”. Why do corporations exist? Why can’t be all be self-employed? That’s kinda how it worked during medieval guild days. Why are we all slaves of huge corporations now?

There’s many ideas thrown around, but the standard theory is that firms are built because of “transaction costs”. Basically in a free market, individual economic actors don’t quite trust each other, for good reason. Too many people around, can’t really know who’s good and who isn’t. A hierarchical firm fixes social relations and sets up a structure of trust and responsibility that makes economic action more predictable and safe.

The standard liberal theory of politics had it so that all political actors were self-employed. But, surprise surprise, political firms, i.e. political parties, turned out to be way more effective at political action than isolated individuals. And the same way that corporations tend to look for a certain kind of man, not quite the same as the old individual craftsman; political parties too select for a certain kind of person. One who obeys, who can be trusted. That was the seed of Leninism; and oh boy did that seed grow.”

“[W]hy be reasonable when it doesn’t really matter? […] People’s memories can be inaccurate, especially if they have a good incentive to not update.”

“The great discovery of the 20th century wasn’t atomic power. It was the power of cliques. A few people in positions of power sticking with each other is the most powerful force in the universe.

“[Y]ou should definitely keep in contact with this guy. If you are a person with a brain, you will eventually need to know a guy when you hit a wall and see something that you can personally do something about, but have no way to do it.”

“I’m listening to these people that are very naive, and I respect them, but they’re very naive in this world. Now I might be naive in their world. But in this world they’re naive.”

“Essentially what the dollar stores are betting on in a large way is that we are going to have a permanent underclass in America,” Garrick Brown, director for retail research at the commercial real estate company Cushman & Wakefield, told Bloomberg. “It’s based on the concept that the jobs went away, and the jobs are never coming back, and that things aren’t going to get better in any of these places.”


“There was a brothel madam not to far back the was caught and planning to come forward with a lot of politicians that were John’s. Just before she was found hanging she haad sent a message to someone saying that if it appeared she committed suicide soon it was a setup. Forgot the exact details but it was something like that. Was not that long ago either and was completely forgot about by the public.

Not even really a conspiracy theory just a series of interesting facts that I think makes a pretty obvious equation.”

“The motivation industry is actively invested in making you fail by encouraging burnout.
They divert blame from themselves by always saying that “you can do it if you put your mind to it”, making the person who burnt out believe it was their fault they failed, when in reality they’ve been socially conditioned to take on more than they can handle.
They repeat the cycle, buying products they think will help them, meanwhile the people selling the products continually embed the message that ” It’s all on you”.”

“There is this massive building near where I live that stores grains. It is across town from a flour factory. I don’t know what company owns this massive storage place though, it definitly isn’t the flour company.

It was built in the 90s. And back then there wasn’t any housing development square around it until 2005 when my estate was built. Half the windows are broken and they are all boarded up. But it definitly is still in action because sometimes we head a sound from it that sounds like machines are running.

It has a shit tonne of sattilites on top. Maybe about 20. And nearly every day you see someone on the roof in hi-vis tinkering with something. We live pretty close to a massive air field and army camps. And we live close to Porton Down where a top secret military/medicine facility is located that does who knows what. As well as the army HQ being built here.

I am 100% sure the building is more than just storage.”

“That whole thing is so fucking weird. The DOD tell the press to blame SpaceX for an unidentified failure, and SpaceX says there were no problems with the launch, so it has to be Northrop-Grumman, who built the satellite, but they don’t say anything at all?
It smells like we’re meant to think there’s no satellite when there is one, but that’s a little too tinfoil hatty even for me. It’s just…it lacks subtlety.”

“It really sounds like Northrop-Grumman knows how to keep their mouths shut, or are less concerned with the public perception of their abilities. This is probably the millionth time something has “gone wrong” on a covert project they’re involved in.

Plus, the whole point of actual stealth (to which I mean beyond just radar stealth) is to be invisible and unknown. You don’t hide a stealthy vehicle by announcing to the world it’s existence. If your super stealthy airplane looks like a duck on radar and you tell the world about it, suddenly every hostile power starts scrutinizing every duck shaped object on their radar scopes.

I’ve heard in the past that the Air Force laments that the F-117 Nighthawk was publicly announced and acknowledged for exactly that reason. The Yugoslavian military only shot one down by simply paying attention to weird stuff.”

“Northrop-Grumman absolutely knows how to keep their mouth shut. My grandfather worked for them back on some classified projects and he was under two layers of fake companies. When my grandmother accidentally found out (someone called and said, “you’re -her name- married to -his name- at -real company- right?”) she literally had two agents come to the door and explain a NDA for her to sign.”

“Yeah that’s pretty much my thinking. The USAF said “Hey, we lost that satellite *wink*”, and Northrop-Grumman shrugged knowingly. SpaceX, being new to this type of thing, goes “Hangon, our stuff worked perfectly!”

And it probably did, but SpaceX isn’t up to speed on how clandestine stuff works. They’d better learn real quick, lest they want to lose those contracts to the ULA going forward.

EDIT: A lot of people don’t really seem to understand that the USAF/Pentagon gets the final say here. Doesn’t matter if SpaceX wants to maintain a good reputation, if they don’t keep their mouths shut they won’t get repeat military business, which is a pretty big chunk of rocket launches.

Yeah, SpaceX wants to maintain their reputation. The military does not give a fuck, especially when they’ve got companies left and right willing to take hits to their reputation for those contracts. If SpaceX doesn’t play ball, the ULA will eat their lunch.”

“The public at large doesn’t understand how these types of things actually work. I’m not military, nor am I an employee of the government or one of it’s contractors, but I spent a decent chunk of my time in college studying the history of nuclear weapons, advanced research projects, and their policies (see books like Command and Control, Skunk Works, 15 Minutes, The Doomsday Machine, etc), and it’s a totally different world.

SpaceX is a private group jockeying for military contracts. Up until now, they’ve had the ability to throw weight around simply because they’re the only all-American launch system. But the military is a different beast; it doesn’t care what you provide so long as you can do the job and keep your mouth shut. If the military says it went wrong, you can’t deny it and keep your contracts.

It’s why you never hear PR heads from these contractors publicly go against the US government. You don’t hear General Dynamics, General Atomics, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, or any of the other contractors come out in defense of their equipment.”

>The Yugoslavian military only shot one down by simply paying attention to weird stuff.

Nah, it was more so the Military reusing the same routes, and the commander of the Surface to Air missile battery in that path having a Doctorate in Electrical Engineering and some theories on detecting stealth, and was willing to experiment on his missiles and radar.

It was both sheer luck and a perfect storm of events.”

“By weird stuff I mean the glow of jet engines and the sound of an aircraft screaming by overhead, even though radar couldn’t really see it 😉 I’ve written about this elsewhere, and you’re exactly right.

It was a SAM operator observing an unknown, seemingly “invisible” aircraft flying the same route every night, then deciding to point the radar array directly at that route and crank up the power (which both enabled them to see the thing, but also introduced echos and atmospheric anomalies to what the radar saw, though that doesn’t matter if you know what you’re looking for).

Stealth is a strategy, not a technology. That’s what inclines me to believe that ZUMA is still operational.”

>You don’t hide a stealthy vehicle by announcing to the world it’s existence.

Yet that’s exactly what they’ve done with all of them so far. The F-117, the B-2, the F-22, the F-35… we knew about all of them before the first prototype even took its first flight. If what you said were the case, we wouldn’t have even known about the F-117 and the B-2 until fairly recently, and we probably wouldn’t know about the F-22 or the F-35 at all yet. These things would have been exposed by whistleblowers, not in a press release by the company making them while they’re still working on them.”

“U-2, SR-71/A-12, D-21, Corona…
The US military has a history of employing stealthy equipment BEFORE unveiling them to the public, too. In all of these cases, you need to look at the WHY of why they’re stealthed.

Spy equipment is rarely unclassified while it’s still being used. Weapons of war aren’t. Why? Because weapons of war rely on stealth as an intimidation factor; you WANT your opponent to know that you can kill them before they even know you’re there. That’s the whole point of stealthy combat aircraft: they’re meant to use their stealthiness to be more lethal.

But recon? You don’t want ANYONE to know you’re looking, and to do that you keep your tools a secret. So you never tell anyone you can do it in the first place.”

“we cant exactly hide a rocket launch. so we want a classified satellite in orbit… but we cant hide the launch. we also probably cant hide the orbit, although if it is made of materials that are stealthy to radar perhaps we can hide any alterations it makes to orbit after it is put on its initial orbit.

currently all sats in space are known objects, if china wanted to take something out theyve proven they can do so. the only way to prevent this is to outnumber the destructive capabilities of the chinese/russians. so for example, we would have triple the needed number of sats up there for GPS needs. so if a few GPS sats got taken out we’d still be OK. Same for recon sats.

the next logical step is to prevent or destroy the things that can take out sats. due to the sats not having spare fuel to dodge incoming, or having room for large ECM equipment… the most feasible method would seem to be to make the sat as invisible to radar as possible.

which means… any stealth sat you launch as a test immediately gets announced as a “failure” and the sat runs a course alteration and then waits to see if we or other nations can pick it up and track it.

you cant be subtle with a rocket launch. even if its unannounced, and launchpad cleared for miles… people 100s of miles away will still see it and that will definitely invite more questions than a faked failed sat launch.

the problem is the rocket makers then have to adamantly deny it was their fault otherwise they will have a bad mark on their record… and that’s exactly what happened. immediate denials that the launch vehicle failed.”

“The English were absolutely moving arms on the Lusitania, thats why they dropped a shit-tonne of depth charges on the wreck 30 years later to destroy any evidence.”

“The Germans justified treating Lusitania as a naval vessel because she was carrying hundreds of tons of war munitions, therefore making her a legitimate military target, and argued that British merchant ships had violated the Cruiser rules from the very beginning of the war.”

“And placed ads in major US newspapers warning people not to board the ship as it was known to carry military weapons and would be treated as a military vessel.”

“This was recently confirmed to be true. Another fun fact, Edith Cavell, British nurse executed by the Germans whose death was used as propaganda against the Barbaric Germans, was also recently confirmed to have been a British spy and the Germans were correct.”

“It’s partly because Americans have been brainwashed to accept the worst consequences of capitalism and act like it’s the greatest expression of freedom

Some lower/middle class kid decides to join the military and fight some pointless wars: What a patriot, truly selfless, tough son of a gun, risking life and limb for some vague idea of freedom.

Asking rich ass people to pay higher taxes: how dare you, what the fuck, how do you expect these people to buy into your socialist demands, we’ll end up like Venezuela”

“Hi-vis jackets and clipboards and they’d have been invisible.”

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